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so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country. host: i want to go to something you said. in terms of what the president said about iraq and afghanistan, saying iraq was the war of choice, afghanistan was a war of necessity. in your view, though, was iraq necessary? if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished all that much. it is a debatable question. it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. we should not forget that we did get rid of saddam hussein. it was a terrible tyrant to his people and a danger to the region. there
so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country....
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host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north korea. that is what chuck hagel is talking about. you need to figure out how, given the limitations, it can matter in certain places. that is a realistic assessment. part of the role of the united states is to go into the interior to redesign and so there are less a threat to the united states. when you have limited power, it makes someone like chuck tickle very skeptical of the ability of the united states to do that -- chuck hagel very skeptical of the ability of united states to do that. when he traveled with president obama, a think this was part of this discussion. host: what relat
host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north...
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. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama made the announcement, a handful of republicans came out strongly against hagel. >> he's profoundly wrong on a number of the most important national security issues that face our country today like denying iran nuclear weapons, like direct face to face negotiations with state department designated terrorists organizations like hamas, and calming into question our commitment to our principleal l ally in the middle east, israel. >>> trying to not just score board win after a couple of losses, including the fiscal cliff deal. this fight already looks like a campaign, complete with ads. >> president obama, for secretary o
. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama...
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you now have chuck hagel, someone that obama worked closely with in the u.s. senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the white house that the susan rice and john kerry were pretty much tied folks going in to that state department gig. president obama going with john kerry but you are seeing the white house going for a full throttled fight to get and to win chuck hagel and n
you now have chuck hagel, someone that obama worked closely with in the u.s. senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as...
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you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with...
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and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from what has happened as policy around him. he said at the time he withdrew his name from consideration in 2009 he wanted to be known as somebody who was against the iraq war, known as somebody who was against torture, enhanced techniques, specifically against water boarding. he said recently he is against the shifting of military power to the cia, treating cia effectively as an air force. he says a lot of the drone strikes should be carried out by the military, under traditional military authority so we're not doing this exotic ex
and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from...
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chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the for, affirm and advance. >> i [ male announcer ]o the i've seen incredible things. otherworldly things. but there are some things i've never seen before. this ge jet engine can understand 5,000 data samples per second. which is good for business. because planes use less fuel, spend less time on the ground and more time in the air. suddenly, faraway places don't seem so...far away. ♪ we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when yo
chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the for, affirm and advance. >> i [ male announcer ]o the i've seen incredible things. otherworldly things. but there are some things i've never seen before....
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. >> chuck hagel. big discussions. unlike with susan rice where she hung fire for weeks and was dropped, or she dropped herself, this time he stuck with hagel after all the heat against him on -- some from the gays and the left and the neo-cons and where is he heading? put a guy out there in your face as howard said? >> he thinks that he can win. first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there are certain things about chuck hagel's resume that set with what he wants to do with defense. cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right and he wouldn't have picked him in the second term unless he thought they were in sync on the larger philosophy of what they want. for the american force in the world. chris: a real statement
. >> chuck hagel. big discussions. unlike with susan rice where she hung fire for weeks and was dropped, or she dropped herself, this time he stuck with hagel after all the heat against him on -- some from the gays and the left and the neo-cons and where is he heading? put a guy out there in your face as howard said? >> he thinks that he can win. first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there...
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chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the for, affirm and advance. >> i [ male announcer ]o the this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem, that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effect
chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the for, affirm and advance. >> i [ male announcer ]o the this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ]...
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chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican, has diversity. give him time to finish, fill out the staff and more importantly, i want to keep coming back to, is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance equality or justice. >> i want to get back to some of the issues, the fights he is picking, the fight he could win or lose in the second term. i want to talk about that with the group when we come back, right after this. my heart burns for you... ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when t
chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican, has diversity. give him time to finish, fill out the staff and more importantly, i want to keep coming back to, is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance equality or justice. >> i want to get back to some of the issues, the fights he is picking, the fight he could win or lose in the second term. i want to talk about that with...
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>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some discomfort for him, but remember when president obama came into office, it was he who said we are no longer doing this. this is not who we are as a country, and so if the senate wants to litigate past battles that even the president of the unit
>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of...
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he nominated former senator chuck hagel. the other c.i.a. director, he nominated counterterrorism expert at the white house john brennan. we'll talk about both of them with david sanger of the "new york times" and mark halperin of "time" magazine. >> both mr. brennan and chuck hagel are coming in at exactly the moment when the light footprint strategy has begun to hit some real resistance. the u.s. has not figured out how to intervene in syria in an effective way. it's obviously run into some difficulties in the end of its cyber campaign for now in iran or at least we think it has. so the question is whether or not these two men working together can sort of forge some very new and different ways. >> one of the reasons people have liked chuck hagel over the years, a lot of reasons reporters like him, a lot of reasons his supporters like him is he's a free-speaking guy. he's iconoclastic. he's willing to say things and think about things in a way that's outside not just party orthodoxy but out of the mainstream foreign policy establishment. >>
he nominated former senator chuck hagel. the other c.i.a. director, he nominated counterterrorism expert at the white house john brennan. we'll talk about both of them with david sanger of the "new york times" and mark halperin of "time" magazine. >> both mr. brennan and chuck hagel are coming in at exactly the moment when the light footprint strategy has begun to hit some real resistance. the u.s. has not figured out how to intervene in syria in an effective way. it's...
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. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot, he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as the young private and then sergeant he served with honor alongside his own brother. he'd be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who've been wounded in war and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. a 25-year veteran of the c.i.a. god knows what our national security demands. intelligence that provides policymakers with the facts, strong analytic insights and the keen understanding of a dynamic world. given his extensive experience and travel which is include, by the way, traveling through arabian peninsula where he camped with tribesmen in the desert john has an invaluable perspective on the forces, the history, the culture, the politics, the economics, the desire for human dig anyty driving so much of the changes in today's world. >> rose: joining me now for a conversation about the president's announcement, a look at his evolving fo
. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot, he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as the young private and then sergeant he served with honor alongside his own brother. he'd be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who've been wounded in war and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. a 25-year veteran of the c.i.a. god knows what our national security demands....
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chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the
chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican and has diversity. give him time to fill out the staff and as i want to keep coming back to is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america. and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance. >> i want to get back to the new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why...
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chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets,...
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chuck hagel would be a good fit. i do not see chuck hagel as an easy yes or no. he is a little more complex than that. host: how many allies does chuck hagel have in the senate? guest: when i worked in the senate there was often an occasion where you see senators walk-in, saw the other senators, walked up to them whether they are republican or democrat and started chatting in a collegial relationship. suggest there is anything wrong with this. others would keep their distance and spend more time with their staff. i gather some hagel was one of those. they are not natural senate people. it does not mean they do not have friends. but they do not have a great deal of warm ties. host: joe biden is not a senate person? guest: he grew into one. it wasbefore he had here. hagel's personal ties are limited. in terms of republican support, i think it is nonexistent. we will see what happens in the hearings. i do not think it will be voting for him. him because of friendship. host: you can listen to all of the confirmation hearings on c- span. we're talking with steve clemo
chuck hagel would be a good fit. i do not see chuck hagel as an easy yes or no. he is a little more complex than that. host: how many allies does chuck hagel have in the senate? guest: when i worked in the senate there was often an occasion where you see senators walk-in, saw the other senators, walked up to them whether they are republican or democrat and started chatting in a collegial relationship. suggest there is anything wrong with this. others would keep their distance and spend more...
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the former republican senator chuck hagel is expected to be nominated as the defense secretary. he has proven to be a controversial choice. >> he spent the last three years advising president obama on key defense issues. he is very outspoken. on the iraq war he once called the strategy a game of pingpong. on the issue of nuclear issues he said, how is it you can have -- you cannot have them but we can? chuck hegel calls for talks with hamas, and that raised a red flag among many republicans worried about how he could be in charge of the one-on-one military relationship between the u.s. and israel, having made comments like that. president obama arrived from hawaii. he is also the before a fight. the u.s.-u.n. ambassador susan rice, republicans would have none of her because of the way she handled the been gauzy situation. president obama is saying, i am putting up chuck paypal. he is not withdrawing his name, so republicans if you wish to vote against him, that is up to you. mitch mcconnell says when chuck hagel comes up for confirmation, he will be given tough but fair question
the former republican senator chuck hagel is expected to be nominated as the defense secretary. he has proven to be a controversial choice. >> he spent the last three years advising president obama on key defense issues. he is very outspoken. on the iraq war he once called the strategy a game of pingpong. on the issue of nuclear issues he said, how is it you can have -- you cannot have them but we can? chuck hegel calls for talks with hamas, and that raised a red flag among many...
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i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying shut down the government. go ahead. i'll have my pizza. you go ahead. >> he'll have other things. >> whatever else you say. what happened? newt looked like a fool. he looked like a fool. so can this president show that kind of guts? first you because you're for him. >> well, i think we're going to see the debt ceiling fight first. >> that's what i mean. >> he feels so passionately -- >> will he tell them to go guest lost? >> in the book i had out last year -- >> what's the name of the book? >> "showdown." the first time he got in his aides said
i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying...
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>>> our second story "outfront" iran in chuck hagel's corner. the defense minister applauding president obama's pick for the defense chief, saying we hope there will be practical changes in america's foreign policy and washington becomes respectful of the rights of nations. hagel's comments about iran have become lightning rods. critics point back to his push in 2005 for direct negotiations with iran and to his past statements like in 2006, when he said i would say that a military strike against iran, a military option, is not a viable feasible responsible option. i believe a political settlement will be the answer. 2005 and 2006 was a long time ago. his views have tempered perhaps, who knows. "outfront" tonight, peter brooks, former assistant secretary of defense and john avlon. let me start with you, peter. obviously the iranian government loves to get involved in these things at times and stir the pot. they seem to love to do that. but how much does this seeming endorsement affect this potential nomination? >> well, i guess you have to ask th
>>> our second story "outfront" iran in chuck hagel's corner. the defense minister applauding president obama's pick for the defense chief, saying we hope there will be practical changes in america's foreign policy and washington becomes respectful of the rights of nations. hagel's comments about iran have become lightning rods. critics point back to his push in 2005 for direct negotiations with iran and to his past statements like in 2006, when he said i would say that a...
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chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg. he was the first openly gay ambassador. appointed by president clinton in 1998. i was at the state department when jim hormel was sworn in bid a lynn albright -- by madeleine albright and tim wu, his partner was there when he was sworn in. we were all in tears watching that historic moment. at the time, chuck hagel said he didn't deserve to be ambassador because he was openly gay and that sent the wrong message. he wouldn't be able to represent all of the people of the united states. i resent that he said that. he was dead wrong but
chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg....
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being a former senator doesn't mean chuck hagel knows all the folks in the upper chamber. two out of five weren't even there when he was. will his meet and greet help ward off the threat of defeat for his nomination to run the pentagon? and three is a magic number. it' it's the "the daily rundown"'s third anniversary. some surprises along the way. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 11th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. boy, three years? a different part, huh? let's get to my first reads of the morning. vice president biden will present his recommendations on gun violence to the president tuesday. white house officials say an assault weapons ban will still be an element of whatever final package is proposed, despite reporting to the contrary this morning. and while in a 15-minute statement for cameras yesterday, biden emphasized an emerging consensus around a set of what he called gun safety proposals. he did not mention the assault weapons ban idea once. >> there is a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggests that we have
being a former senator doesn't mean chuck hagel knows all the folks in the upper chamber. two out of five weren't even there when he was. will his meet and greet help ward off the threat of defeat for his nomination to run the pentagon? and three is a magic number. it' it's the "the daily rundown"'s third anniversary. some surprises along the way. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 11th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. boy, three years? a...
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he wants republicans to look more like chuck hagel. he wants them to be more moderate, wants them to be less in favor of big, strong u.s. military presence. so, he is trying to tell the republicans how they ought to be. that's part of it. but the biggest part is, the president has decided, and he made it very clear in the discussions over the tax increases that went into play since the beginning of this year, he's made it very clear thatore mr. nice guy and hs going to have things his way and having seen susan rice, who was widely speculated to be his choice for secretary of state, to see her have to withdraw her potential nomination, the president, i think, decided he's going to make it stick and make the republicans choke on it when it comes to chuck hagel. >> megyn: now, brennan, he's, you know, going to take over for petraeus at the cia and he's had a long history at the cia, apparently some feathers were ruffled and some weren't, whatever. but the thing about brennan,'s been in an important position, top advisor on counterterroris
he wants republicans to look more like chuck hagel. he wants them to be more moderate, wants them to be less in favor of big, strong u.s. military presence. so, he is trying to tell the republicans how they ought to be. that's part of it. but the biggest part is, the president has decided, and he made it very clear in the discussions over the tax increases that went into play since the beginning of this year, he's made it very clear thatore mr. nice guy and hs going to have things his way and...
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just yesterday, he nominated former senator chuck hagel to head the pentagon. hagel is the very man that suggested another president's mentors joe biden for vice president back in 2008 and nominated john kerry for secretary of state. think lincoln's team of rivals with a twist. >> you'll begin your second term a semi divine stature. imagine the possibilities peace will bring. why tarnish with a battle in the house? it's a rat's nest in there. talented hicks and hack that is rejected the amendment ten months ago will lose. >> i like our chances now. >> president's not quite starting the second term with economy divine status and battles ahead so how could the appointments shape white house policy? today is michael hirsh. >> michael, so it's not exactly team of rivals i guess with chuck hagel defense secretary and obama and hagel never really rivals. hagel is one of the allies from the other side, sort of from the beginning and wanted to ask you about the roots of the relationship. we see reporting to refer back to the 2008 trip in the campaign that they took to
just yesterday, he nominated former senator chuck hagel to head the pentagon. hagel is the very man that suggested another president's mentors joe biden for vice president back in 2008 and nominated john kerry for secretary of state. think lincoln's team of rivals with a twist. >> you'll begin your second term a semi divine stature. imagine the possibilities peace will bring. why tarnish with a battle in the house? it's a rat's nest in there. talented hicks and hack that is rejected the...
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big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's happened and chuck hagel has not moved with it. part of what's happening, some sense a lot of republicans talked about the israel question, a personal pique in the case of some people and john mccain may be one of them. >> really? >> joe made that point yesterday. there's some people in washington who personally don't like chuck hagel. they may actually like him personally but he rubbed some people the wrong way in the course of doing politics in d.c. what do you think is going on here with someone like senator mccain say
big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's...
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chuck hagel is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot of ways. i don't know why he thinks that it takes a republican to be nominated two times out of three. >> michelle fourneau, her job as under-secretary was historically high level achievement, for somebody in the defense world. when she was there as such a highly regarded person as a potential next secretary of defense, did it make a difference in the pentagon? did it make a difference in that setting to have a woman at that high level? >> right. i think it absolutely did in several different ways, number one, she was just a real inspiration for a lot of young women and really encouraged them to go into jobs that were seen as being in male-dominated realms, secondly, she really brought in a terrific crew of women into leadership positions in the pentagon. you know, dramatically increased the number of women in the positions. and when you think about the rolodex, you tend to think of people you know, and men tend to know more men, and women know more women, so getting people in that high-rankin
chuck hagel is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot of ways. i don't know why he thinks that it takes a republican to be nominated two times out of three. >> michelle fourneau, her job as under-secretary was historically high level achievement, for somebody in the defense world. when she was there as such a highly regarded person as a potential next secretary of defense, did it make a difference in the pentagon? did it make a difference in that setting to have a woman at that high...
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it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying, you know what, you don't have to play this partisan political game all the time. here is someone who has been a republican senator from a red state who agrees with me on some issues but disagrees with me on other issues. but we can work together. he's someone who has my confidence. again, like colin powell said. so a bold independent thinker. another thing, here's it is guy who can be the first enlisted man who can ever be secretary here. here's someone who gets the troops. when the president looked at what the troops are going thr
it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying,...
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...
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were you surprised that chuck hagel specifically did? >> i was surprised. i thought it was a fantastic opportunity for president obama to make a historic gesture and nominate the first female secretary of defense. it's one of those situations where it struck me. obviously i am completely biased. but it struck me that the most qualified man for the job was a woman in this particular case. i was also disappointed just that he named chuck hagel, who is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot of ways. but i don't see why president obama, a democrat wants to send the message that even he thinks it takes a republican to run the defense department two times out of three. >> in terms of michelle flournoy's role in the national security world, her job as undersecretary at the defense department was itself historically higher level of achievement for someone in the defense world. when she was there and when she was there as such a highly regarded person as a potential next secretary of defense, did it make a difference in the pentagon? did it make a difference in tha
were you surprised that chuck hagel specifically did? >> i was surprised. i thought it was a fantastic opportunity for president obama to make a historic gesture and nominate the first female secretary of defense. it's one of those situations where it struck me. obviously i am completely biased. but it struck me that the most qualified man for the job was a woman in this particular case. i was also disappointed just that he named chuck hagel, who is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot...
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as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment, heilmann and then take it to ben. we have to pull a sound bite from lindsey graham accusing him of not being mainstream to try and sum up this resentment. tell me what this resentment is. who is it? by whom? what's the problem? list them for me. >> will you please stop interrupting him? >> i want to hear the names. >> and just let him talk. >> graham, maybe mcconnell, maybe. >> the guy who screwed up earlier this morning. that was horrible. >> to me it comes down to two words. >> let mihim talk. this makes me sad. >> he gave appear interview in 2006 i
as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment,...
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that's what the confirmation process is about. >> do you have concerns about chuck hagel from what you know so far? >> you know, i think senator hagel deserves all of our admiration for his service in vietnam, for his service to the country as a senator from nebraska, and he would be the only enlisted man who has ever served in the military to become secretary of defense if he gets confirmed, but i do have some serious questions for him about how he would implement the amendment that i just put into the defense authorization bill to make sure that women in the military who are victims of rape or incest are able to access reproductive health services and get the same coverage that other women throughout the federal system get for abortions. i want to hear how he plans to implement that. i want to hear what he has to say about israel and some of the statements that have been made about his past positions on israel. now, i think he has had a very strong record in support of israel, but i think those are questions that i want to hear him answer. >> and i know hillary clinton has just come
that's what the confirmation process is about. >> do you have concerns about chuck hagel from what you know so far? >> you know, i think senator hagel deserves all of our admiration for his service in vietnam, for his service to the country as a senator from nebraska, and he would be the only enlisted man who has ever served in the military to become secretary of defense if he gets confirmed, but i do have some serious questions for him about how he would implement the amendment...
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he knows chuck hagel well, they traveled to iraq and afghanistan together. i think he admired hagel's strength and independence in standing up on some of these issues in the senate. and he i was intrigued by hagel's status as someone who has actually been an enlisted man, two purple hearts, understands the wages of war. >> rose: and are friends too, i mean he liked him. >> there's no doubt that he likes him. and i, you know, i think that the fact that they have a good and close working relationship is to the benefit of the country. >> rose: if political journalist and the public at launch doesn't understand something fundamental about what life is like inside the white house, not hours and not fat agency and not all of that, but the way it works, what is it we don't understand? well, i think the gate challenge in the swhous that nothing inconsequence comes there. the president always says if it's easy to solve, it never comes to me. so by definition you know, virtually everything that's being dealt with on a daily basis has, you know s deeply complex and gen
he knows chuck hagel well, they traveled to iraq and afghanistan together. i think he admired hagel's strength and independence in standing up on some of these issues in the senate. and he i was intrigued by hagel's status as someone who has actually been an enlisted man, two purple hearts, understands the wages of war. >> rose: and are friends too, i mean he liked him. >> there's no doubt that he likes him. and i, you know, i think that the fact that they have a good and close...